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To anyone with a solid "idea" of how Schools work in America, one should know that it's basically just one gigantic Prison for Brainwashing. Even though its basically just a place of Dumbification.
What is the American Educations Systems really for?
I'm certain there a conspiracy that the Big Man does not want us to know!
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
no offense but you sound like a 6th grader who just got slapped with a science project
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From: Twilight91101To anyone with a solid "idea" of how Schools work in America, one should know that it's basically just one gigantic Prison for Brainwashing. Even though its basically just a place of Dumbification.Good job! You've learned the least secret secret in America!
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=20834549 I have a feeling we'd be far more brainwashed if our only source of information was our parents. But with school, you get a bunch of different teachers, and a lot of them have strong convictions about things.
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Dude if they wanted to brainwash us that bad, they would have never let TVs get out to the public. Besides, what you say is mostly true, but aside from a few teachers and the higher faculty, my teachers just teach their subjects and get it done, some pretty fun at the same time.
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Wow this is the worst topic ive seen all night.
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Give us proof of school brainwashing give us proof.
Hmmmph. So you need proof now?
I ask you something...when confronted by a Fact, do you ever question it?
Along with television,mcdonalds, the System is created to make obedient sheep.
However, there is "another" side, which I rather not tell you.
Do you know your own true nature?
Do you ever seek to actually learn anymore?
There is, afterall, more then one path to everything.
Nonetheless, there is another side still...but I rather not tell you. You are too ingrained in it already.
You only learn what you need to know, after all.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
How old are you topic creator? Seriously... What a stupid concept. For example, im failing my first hour (only one im failing btw) and i still enjoy it. I enjoy learning and listening to the stories of the past.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
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Deberk Posted: 12/2/2005 5:47:19 AM
Message DetailZOMG! LERnING MAKS J00 DUM!1111!!!!!!!!!! lolNow with that out of the way, Just try to get through school. Afterwards, teach yourself what you want by reading books from your friendly neighborhood library. Is that so hard?
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Twilight91101 Posted: 12/2/2005 6:02:48 AM
Message DetailI think your assuming too much.---The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
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ReaperVII Posted: 12/2/2005 6:09:56 AM
Message DetailFrom: insanebrain619 Posted: 12/1/2005 6:42:10 PM Message Detail no offense but you sound like a 6th grader who just got slapped with a science project---Blah blah blah blah......QFT
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Twilight91101 Posted: 12/2/2005 6:14:08 AM
Message DetailHmmm...I am impressed. Even with confounded by a layer of Truth, you still believe that the current system works well enough."He" was right. Give them enough bread and a decent circus, and they will be content.Even if the Twilight is actually starting to dawn on our Fair "America".I wonder...how old are all of you? Did you lose your desire to truly learn, and are you content with the the American Schools now, at this time?I underestimated them. Very...impressive. Maybe too Impressive.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 Posted: 12/2/2005 8:39:40 AM
Message DetailSpend some time in a Japanese school system, and come back and tell us how it is.
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Haru05 Posted: 12/2/2005 9:07:06 AM
Message DetailI agree/disagree with topic creator. "America" wants to turn us into obedient sheep,just play MGS/MSG2/MG3/any mgs, the story is very very detailed and ties with previous events in america,coincidense? maybe, Kojima is kick-ass like that anyways, but back to america learning system,they hide too much stuff..Like the Kennedy files, but i think those will eb revealed in 2012, i heard it somewhereNow, about "He" and sounded al secretive, thats really BS , if your saying these things,why not spoil the secret to everyone? Me, myself, am not going to school, i broke my ankle previously and my school is a 3-story building, so im going back next semester.Also, im from Puerto Rico, the learning system here is VERY different from there, the teachers are more friendly and some like telling truths to kids, but you, topic creator sound like a 5th grader whos having a hard time doing his homework, i suggest www.wikipedia.com>_>
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MysticTortoise Posted: 12/2/2005 9:08:16 AM
Message DetailI do feel that the American school systems main focus is to make individuals just smart enough to get and keep low paying, dead end jobs, but not quite smart enough to realize they don't have to work these jobs just to live, there's so much better they could be doing with their life. Of course, when you consider the fact that the average American doesn't really have the ambition to do better with their life I suppose it's a decent system (just so you know, I'm American, so It's not like I'm talking bad about things I have no idea about)...I also feel that if the education system where to teach a little more "real world" stuff then it would be a bit better also. What's the point in knowing calculus and biology if you don't know how to go about filing taxes? I don't know about you, but there's a lot I didn't learn in school that could have come in a LOT more useful than how a cow's digestive system works...
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Haru05 Posted: 12/2/2005 9:11:43 AM
Message DetailP.S. : You said "Layers of Truth" you ahve not given us proof that theyre not really teaching us anything, in your first post you were like "I have a feeling they dont want us to know"then all th suddently you gave us a 50-page report of proof? sure''give me proof.
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FireChainsaw Posted: 12/2/2005 9:32:52 AM
Message DetailI've become convinced that the recent introduction of Scantron sheets for standardized tests sole purpose is to acclimate an uneducated working class to filling out lottery tickets.
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Cheer up, Chemo kid.
I'm pretty sure you can't have an "Educations Systems"
Pick your plural, buddy
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...It was a joke.
The Simpsons made a parody, where the Family went to Japan.
Knowing barely anything at the time, they ate at an American Style Japanese Restaurant.
They had a "Yankee" Waiter, who was a Japanese student educated by the "American Educations System".
He more or less said, "Don't look at me! I know nothing. I'm product of the American Educations Systems! I make cheap cars and inferior...electronics."
All in a Texas accent.
I thought it was hilarious, but only because it was...true.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
...Proof?
You want PROOF?
I'm sure you went through some Kind of School, correct?
I am...most impressed.
Wondrous Ignorance...such blissed fruit and sweet.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
"Don't let school interfere with your education".
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Perception is reality.
I also prefer not to tell my "Students" everything.
If they want to understand the full picture, they better be ready to fight for it.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
First of all, I don't know if you're trying to use yourself as proof that educational system in this country sucks or what, but nobody's going to listen to you if you sound like that.
Second, why do you think the system is so bad? It's by no means perfect, but a lot of the common complains about it are just bull.
There's the old "School was just created to train people to follow bells SO THEY COULD WORK IN FACTORIES!" What relevance does that have today? I personally don't see anything particularly evil in going from class to class when you hear a bell, and (correct me if I'm wrong), but school today is pretty much intended to keep you from working in a factory, so who cares if the context in which the actual learning takes place is a little monotonous?
Then there's the argument that schools just don't teach well enough, which is patently ridiculous. By the time you're in high school you're free to take basically whatever classes you want. The fact that most people are apathetic and take the easiest classes you can (woodshop, basket-weaving) and the lowest levels of their required academics just so they can put forth no effort and squeak isn't the fault of the system, it's the fault of the dumb asses who do it. If you take all academic subjects (for example, my school requires a combined seven years of math and science, I've taken about ten) and classes at the highest levels (Honors, AB, BC, EEP, whatever you've got at your school) and actually put forth your best effort, you will almost certainly get a good education.
And then, of course, there's the even more ridiculous assertion that schools brainwash you into blindly believing what you hear. So, by giving you information they're training you to automatically believe their information? How would you like them to remedy this, by just ceasing to teach you anything? I don't know about you, but at my school we frequently get projects that require us to do research outside of school, often on a subject of our own choosing, which, to me, doesn't seem to be blindly accepting everything the school tells us at all. And have you ever questioned something a teacher said, or asked another teacher a question one couldn't answer, or become interested in a subject and done some reading in it outside of school? All of these are quite possible, and if you choose not to do them, I really don't see how it's the school system's fault. What you're basically saying is that you want to learn things besides what the school gives you...but you want the school to give it to you. Bravo.
Hmm...that turned out somewhat longer than I meant it to, actually, and now that I read past the first post I see this must be a joke topic. I guess I'll post this anyway though.
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Cute.
But there is still another side, that you are missing.
I ask you, what is the Job, that you so desire?
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
^ Very valid points. Especially about how this is prolly just a joke topic. But it does illustrate an interesting point. There are many sources within our society that brainwash young people into believing that school is nothing but a brainwashing factory. The motivation is clear (cha-ching) to peddle this viewpoint, and people tend to feel special when they hold a belief they believe to be unique.
I am working in the public school system, and i see these types of kids all the time. "You just want us to accept facts without questioning!". Actually i wish kids these days would actually ask some decent questions as opposed to just claiming that we don't want them to. It's quite sad really, but inevitable with that age group.
Firechainsaw made me laugh.
Also, twilight, I'm not trying to discourage your way of thinking if you are in fact genuine, in fact I would hope you would be willing to be a bit more open about your thoughts so perhaps we could all learn from each other. Sure there are sheep out there, but you're preaching to the choir man, this is a Paranormal/Conspiracy Theory board. Don't hold back info because you think we aren't ready to hear it. Many of us have travelled down the same road that you are now on.
Which Path are you asking about?
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
The second one. Come on man, stop talking in riddles. How can you expect anyone to understand what the **** you are talking about?
Better yet, give me a list of these Paths and i'll tell you which ones need clarifying.
I'm trying to be reasonable here, but I'm starting to wonder if you truly have nothing to contribute and just het off on wasting peoples time.
"Sigh".
If you must who the "Higher" layer of Truth is, then I will give you a clue.
That being is right there, in your room, right now...watching your every move.
You can never run from it, and you can never hide from it.
And you will always hate and resent it.
Against it, you have no hope but to ignore it and lead your own existence, vainly.
What is this thing then, do you think?
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
I'm from Canada, and actually taking a course in this in my university. Basically here's why the education system (which is very similar to, but not as bad as America's) doesn't work.
If I give you the last exam you've written (doesn't matter what level schooling), with no previous warning, will you do well?
Chances are you wouldn't do very well.
Now abou this whole brainwashing thing. I don't believe that the school system is being used to plant some secret ideal system in your head or something. However, I do believe that you become 'brainwashed' in the sense that you stop caring about the process or the consequences of learning, because you become so numb to the point of learning after years of stupid lessons about stuff you don't care about.
In other words:
School = ineffective, boring and mind numbing? yes
School = government conspiracy? no
/end school rant
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Hmmmm...but I never specifically said it was the Government's Conspiracy, no?
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
If I give you the last exam you've written (doesn't matter what level schooling), with no previous warning, will you do well?
Chances are you wouldn't do very well. Of my current classes, I'm fairly confident I could do just as well as I did last time (if not better) for physics, math, and spanish. With english and history, I'd definitly have to review, but that's a good thing. If I didn't, the class would be nothing more than me memorizing things. But if instead it's built so that after some review time I'd be fully up to speed, the class would be going well because I would have learned concepts, not useless details.
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http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/peaceout Very true Darky. I believe we can agree that it is a problem that can be fixed if we implement drastic enough changes. Of course with this issue, like most issues, there are two types of people. The ones who complain and do nothing, and those who try to make the existing system better. Oh wait...there are also those who just state vague mystical statements about some higher truth that they alone are privy to...what an ego.
Twilight, there will come a time when you realize that if you are going to do justice to any belief you hold, you must move it out of the purely philosophical, and try to make a difference in the REAL world. When you are ready, i just hope you will find someone who is still willing to listen.
Dude if they wanted to brainwash us that bad, they would have never let TVs get out to the public.
WTF are you on?
Do you know any BETTER form of brainwashing other than the TV????
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Hmmm. Fine, I'll tell you who conspires against us to go to an American Education System, to get dumbified.
It is, of course, ourselves.
Who else, would be so resentful of the system, yet still forces itself to go to it?
And when we go in it, to "learn" what we hope to, vainly to know that we could have gotten the same skills except by raw experience, by actually going out into this world, and suffering?
When confronted by the School, we attempt to negatively "idolize" it, so we hate it so much, yet go to it anyway.
Why? Because we believe we have no choice. Supposedly, the Government had the power to "destroy" us.
However, in reality, they don't.
The Government has no power over us, that we don't give it.
That's the irony of conspiracy theories, we make them ourselves. We "give" the government power, and when we get upset with the system, we pretend the "Man" is keeping us down.
When in reality, there is no one next to us, with a Gun sticking to us around our head.
This is a Time of Insecurity, afterall.
We prefer to externalize our weaknesses, rather then internalize then, too.
For the one who said I was a Sixth Grader who was given a Science Project?
I merely wonder, because "He" might be the one who is a Sixth Grader with a science project.
....Hmm...maybe I said too much.
I have to be careful about that, after all. Not everyone wants to avoid ignorance.
And yes. This is...more or less a Joke Topic.
We have made it a Joke Topic, at the very least.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
I agree with Darky, the educational system doesn't deliberately do anything, but it's not that effective.
I was lucky though, I like learning (yeah, laugh it up).
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Thank you for finally sharing Twilight. You have convinced me you are not a moron, although i still believe you are a bit egotistical. But who knows... maybe i just don't understand your style.
A couple of key points you made are very true. The system does try to convince us that if we fail in school we are worse off for it, when in reality that really just has to do with what you want out of life. If you are content working 60 hours a week to be able afford only what you need, then not going to school is not a very big deal. Perhaps the falacy that you are trying to point out is that most people in the system do not understand this point of view, and therefor cannot understand why someone would want it. It's a by-product of living in a materialistic society, and in that sense, the Man does have us by the balls. If you truly don't care about that material crap( I emphasize 'truly') then nobody really has anything over you. I still feel it is advisable for people in these positions within the system to continue to encourage their students, as quite often peoples priorities change and all of a sudden 24 k a year aint so hot.
To be Egotistic, you would have to need a strong sense of Self.
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
To be Egotistic, you would have to need a strong sense of Self.
So are you claiming that you do not need a strong sense of self or that you do not HAVE to need one?
Or perhaps you are claiming you have a strong sense of self.
Because I mean, c'mon. I don't know you, so how could i know if you have a need to have a strong sense of self? My guess is that you have a strong sense of self. Whether it is accurate or the best thing for you doesn't really matter, so much as the strength of the feeling.
Do I have a strong sense of Self?
I forget.
Who am I again?
Sometimes I wake up, and I'm a Tiger living in Siberia...
Or was that yesterday...
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The Reason for our Lives? What a pitiful question. It just is.
Well my shift is over. It was fun bro, I'll see you on insanity's backside.
Editors note- The purpose of this is not to demonstrate anything other than how much time i have on my hands.
